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Written DavidSchober
5/1/2012 6:16 PM  RssIcon

Recording Tip 33: I’ll often listen to a mix playback outside of the control room….mostly with the door closed.

This is a tip is another of those happy accidents. I was working on a mix one day when a client arrived to hear what I’d done. As he sat in my chair to hear the mix, I hit play and then stepped outside the control room to grab a drink. As the door closed, I decided to remain outside, mostly so he’d listen to the entire mix before picking it apart (The minutia this guy would tweak is legendary in this town). But while outside the closed door, I began to hear the mix differently. I began to hear a number of things that, no matter his impending novella of comments, I desperately wanted to fix as well. (Yes, I’d given him a legal pad to write on. It's something one should always do...and always make your clients listen to the whole mix before commenting.)

After the playback finished, I came back in and we went about our changes. But this closed door listen was a good lesson and I was amazed at what I heard listening from there.  

Since then, I’ve continued to listen that way on a regular basis. This is a bit related to Tip 32, regarding monitoring with my small monitors off to the side. You can hear a lot when your head isn’t stuck between the speakers. And there’s something else that happens when the door closes: The acoustic filtering of the door and walls allow me to hear balances that I don’t hear when inside the room. I read that George Massenburg would listen to mixes outside the room with the door open; I tried that as well, but I find it better with the door closed  

So now, even before the clients arrive, I’ll grab my own legal pad and listen to the mix outside the closed door. I found it especially good for vocal levels, as well as, oddly enough, to hear if the bottom end is right. It’s now a secondary listening spot. The third, of course, is my car (I’m working on a way to mix from there!).
 
David Schober is an Engineer/Producer with 20-plus years working with the best in the biz, here to help with your recording and production needs. Find him at his website and on Twitter, or leave a comment below. 

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Re: Recording Tip 33: What Goes On Behind Closed Doors

I've done this ever since I can remember. I often invited my clients to leave the control room for what I always called, "The Other Room Test."

As far as open door/closed door, why not both?

By Michael Finlayson on   5/3/2012 8:38 AM
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Re: Recording Tip 33: What Goes On Behind Closed Doors

Right on. In the early 90s I had a young man who had a very heavy metal band. We would record to a 2" Studer A80 16 track because he didn't like the "thinness" of 24 track. He was very particular and careful - to his credit. Although we had huge wall soffitted Augsberger speakers he would listen at almost imperceptible levels on the Yam NS-10s and then go into the hallway. If the mix rocked and the bass was thumping in that circumstance it was then correct. I've done it ever since. If it sounds balanced and huge at a distance at a very low level then it's monstrous at higher levels.

By Raf Carmany on   5/3/2012 8:39 AM
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Re: Recording Tip 33: What Goes On Behind Closed Doors

Done that for years for mastering. It's the "truth test". Never failed me .

By Glenn Meadows on   1/3/2013 1:32 PM

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